Is there a definitive line that divides crazy from sane? With a hair-raising delivery, Jon Ronson, author of The Psychopath Test, illuminates the gray areas between the two. (With live-mixed sound by Julian Treasure and animation by Evan Grant.)
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Brilliant, thanks! I've long held that hoarding more money than a person (or a family) can use in 100 lifetimes is indeed a form of psychopathy. Just think how equitable things would become if we locked up the billionaires to keep the rest of us safe from them.
Having Depression, a Severe Anxiety Disorder, PTSD, Alice in Wonderland Syndrome and several other hideous disorders makes life interesting to say the least. Scientologists believing drugs and psychiatry don't work is for me is totally wrong. It took time but now I feel like the cocktail works for most of what I have and fixes some of the symptoms and that's pretty good compared to spending almost a decade going from 1 drug to another and failing, never going outside, hating humans and being so anxious I couldn't answer the front door. Now I sleep like a normal person but my nightmare disorder and sleep paralysis isn't great but at least I sleep which I barely did before. My depression is ok in some areas like general mood and not so great in others but it's ok. Anxiety is still the thing we've yet to help enough. Valium takes the edge off it very slightly but really just makes me sleepy. Some people are doing great which im envious of but I've come to terms with what I am and that I can't be cured of a damaged brain but I do my best to live as close to "normality" as possible.
First of all, amazing music and animation.
Secondly, why does it matter if a person is psychopathic or not if he is not commiting crimes, to the law enforcers.
Imprisoning Tony was wrong once they realized he wasn't crazy and just because he was a psychopath, who has already served his time.
Lastly, also isn't the last sentence by the Jon contradictory to what he said prior to that, the only part where I didn't get him? Implying we should sequestrate these people after saying that these people are the gray areas we should explore(his words).
So... since clinical psychology is such BS, and psychopaths are completely harmless, according to Scientologists; then go ahead and vote for Trump again.
People don’t get diagnosed just because they have some symptoms on a checklist. There is much more that is being assessed. Those tests (which are psychometrically validated and researched) just confirm clinical observations that confirm the client’s suffering, history and consistent problems caused by those traits.
If you go to a doctor and complain about stomach pains, that affect your everyday functioning, you might get tested for different things and end up with a diagnosis. But if you want to insist that the patient just had an episode of diarrhea, and shouldn’t be labeled with a diagnosis, then you’re just in denial.
It is very difficult to know what goes on in the patient's mind psychologically ,
so most of the doctors and psychologists who describe the disease, are originally two real patients ,
this is what makes Ted use a real patien
Most of the events narrated by Jon Ronson are within the city limits,,
of course, the city is the symbol of modern civilization ,,,
he therefore describes it as the gray area that forms the subconscious courtyard ,,
where the testing process stands out for each of us ,
because what happens in the civilized world many minds can not afford
Either entering into the stage of imbalance and madness , Or to become an analyst and participant in the development of civil events
Psychopaths are not mentally ill, so I don't understand why this guy would be detained in a place like broadmoor. Also, psychopaths are born, not made, they cannot be treated. It is fairly unlikely that this situation would occur. In this case they would move the guy to a general population prison. The government cannot afford to detain psychopaths in psychiatric prisons - it is pointless.
It is very difficult to know what goes on in the patient's mind psychologically ,
so most of the doctors and psychologists who describe the disease, are originally two real patients ,,
this is what makes Ted use a real patient
I dont agree with him. Too soft and fluffy, not clear cut. Too emotional, not rational enough.
You can determine psychopathy at the organic level with a brain scan. Its pretty hard science. Not every psychopath is a criminal and even if they are not they can cause a lot of harm in peoples lives. If a psychopath is a criminal an has been convicted they have a very high level of recidivism. So if someone is diagnosed with Psycopathy and abnormal criminal behavior they better be locked up or monitored - for the sake of every person they encounter.
He is really making some things sound way too harmless - and that is the dangerous thing - because a psycopath will always give you an altered version of reality.
Did anyone else find this almost impossible to listen to? Really hard to make out anything he was saying. Unnecessary noise/music/whatever in the background doesn't help when you sound like John Inman.
I absolutely hated this talk. The background music for starters. His intonation is disconnected. And the talk itself was plain useless in my opinion. He tried to do something "different", an original talk; absolute rubbish.
I think that most of the evil in the world ultimately comes from people wanting the world to be simple and ignoring the truth because it's complicated. Certainly more than is caused by people who actually have serious brain disorders that make them do bad things.
And of course a lot more is caused by the fact that we've created an economy where everybody has to learn to live like a psychopath if they want to succeed.
Anyone working for Quora. I was the last one to talk to them, then they thought it's more fashionable to become completely ominous and unknown... I wanted merely moderatorial help and they, instead of seeing harassment of a troll, determined that troll sort of "won". And then they acted as if they themselves were targets by me disagreeing and they never reading anything. They're total psychopaths. That was just the shallow version, it's utterly deranged, in fact it ruined my life so far, though primarily because of the original "troll" psychopath. (And they also reacted super-strongl,. partly in the way of becoming more secretive, expressing their cultlike self-importance they had to begin with. It's not even possible to explain straightforwardly what their fucking deal is in behaving the way they did, just super-stupid and deranged.) Anyway...
I'd say easily 3 in a hundred are psychopaths, 9 out of hundred who make themselves heard on the internet (here or anywhere on the internet), in some places 60-95%. Of those latter, maybe only the normal 9% are "real"psychopaths, but the interesting thing about that is, in social contexts psychopathy can be very widespread as a group phenomenon. Anyone "justifying" voting for Trump (or also pretending to "rationalize" their antipathy towards Hillary, which is super-irrational and subliminal) would easily be 70% psychopaths, i.e. it's not possible by normal, everyday, unmanipulative or rational, "sophisticated" thinking. So in various political or social contexts, many of them quite obvious and also normally accepted as such. (This one is actually conveniently inconspicuous, a VERY convenient element, stupidly imagined to be an "argument". This in turn makes it widespread more easily...)
For those who didn't understand it. This is what I summarized from my point of view.
The psychopathic test is his book. He's telling the audience that many people are defined as "mad" or "crazy" by just listening or seeing the things a person does but for them are normal. Just like Tony asked, how do you sit in a sane way? Jon realizes that everyone has "this" disability or "that" mental illness but, exactly, how do define normal when everyone has their own perception of what is normal or not. Their own definition of normal.
Tony was called a psychopath for being manipulative and grandiose. He said he was going to break the marriage of the girl he liked, which already shouts "no remorse" that is also a trait of a psychopath. He was sent to jail by some "Fracas" he called it. Tony told Jon if he could buy him a drink. Now thinking about everything that Tony did and what he experienced, would you judge Tony because he was a psychopath or accept the offer?
What would you have done?
In the end, probably egotism (which I'm sure isn't really), Jon didn't go because of those reasons.
The reason capitalism is the best system ever devised is that it makes use of non violent psychopaths without having to coerce or extort people like socialism does. Capitalism makes no assumption about human nature except that those who want to succeed should have ample opportunity to do so. If that statistic about corporate psychipaths is true (which I doubt) then psychopaths are pretty much carrying normal, low achieving people on their backs.
The world needs sociopaths and psychopaths. It's not illegal to be one, unless you do illegal activities. Most do the necessary things we need in this world that need cold, calculated actions without remorse. Think Generals, CEOs, Diplomats, ICU Doctors, Lawyers and so on. I'm not saying every person in a position of authority is one, but it certainly helps.
The five days I spent in a facility after cursing at a cop (I'm white, so they didn't just point-blank shoot me.) gave me symptoms that resemble PTSD. My family was charged thousands of dollars for my "treatment". I can't imagine what a month would be like, let alone a year, or twelve. The truth is that in America, they keep the beds full to make money. That's it. Seeing this was so validating and so shocking at the same time. It seems to be the era of "pro-recovery," and any distrust of an industry that undeniably harms people is, of course, seen as paranoia. I'm so glad that there are people in the world who still see victims as humans.
You should have gone with him.
Obviously its sarcasm. The activist media is fear mongering to keep you in a perpetual state of fear, you should see it for what it is. The Washington Post does a great job at compiling statistics of police shootings where fatal force is used. Deaths are proportional to population. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/national/police-shootings-2018/?utm_term=.e9526177eb72
I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, but have you ever seen The Wire? I live in Baltimore. Things like our local news outlets can confirm that things like that do indeed happen on a daily basis! In fact, just the other day, a witness in a county- and city-wide police corruption case that was set to testify was found dead. The police are saying it's suicide-- so weird, right? :) :) :) So yeah, I don't know about the whole world, but I understand how things work in my own town.